A Forum for Public Feedback on Regional...

A Forum for Public Feedback on Regional Transportation Decisions is Needed

Started on Sep 21, 2011 by Angie Schmitt

NOACA is Cleveland's regional planning agency, responsible for dispersing millions in federal transportation dollars that shape our region for better or worse. But they engage in almost zero formal public outreach with the NE Ohio public in order to gain feedback. So I wanted to create a place where people could send feedback to this agency. If you have thoughts or suggestions about how NOACA works, post them below. I have quite a few :)

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  1. Angie Schmitt
    Angie Schmitt

    I am curious about NOACA's response to the new Complete Streets legislation put forward by the city of Cleveland. Does NOACA intend to honor the spirit of that legislation? Why didn't NOACA respond to that question from the Plain Dealer last week the way ODOT did?

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  2. Angie Schmitt
    Angie Schmitt

    How has the fact that Cleveland lost 17 percent of its population over the past decade impacted NOACA's policy going forward? If it hasn't, why?

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    Posted Sep 21, 2011

  3. Angie Schmitt
    Angie Schmitt

    What is NOACA's plan for maintaining the region's existing infrastructure? What percent of the region's roads are in "good" condition? What percent of the regional transportation budget is spent on maintenance? Is that enough to keep our roads in good repair? If not, why do we continue to expand our infrastructure system?

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    Posted Sep 21, 2011

  4. Angie Schmitt
    Angie Schmitt

    Why does NOACA hold its board meetings during business hours when few members of the public are able to attend? Does NOACA value public feedback? If so, what has the agency done to encourage public participation?

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    Posted Sep 21, 2011

  5. Angie Schmitt
    Angie Schmitt

    NOACA employed a bike planner for 2-1/2 decades. What does the public have to show for its investment in that position, exactly?

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    Posted Sep 21, 2011

  6. Sam Bell
    Sam Bell

    What's up with the road salt? Road salt causes a trmendous amount of rust and corrosion to vehicles in this area every year.  In my work as a mechanic, I deal with this damage on a daily basis.  While the average age of a car in America is now over 10 years, few cars in Cleveland will ever make it beyond about 12-15 years. [A 10 year average age requires essentially the same number of 20 year-old cars as new cars.] The salt also takes its toll on bridges, sewers, local aquifers and ecosystems.  All road salt eventually winds up in the lake or in the ground.

    The collective cost of all this damage is many millions of dollars a year, most of it leaving our region.  This economic drag is a largely self-inflicted wound.  The are a number of alternatives to the acid gel treated,  sodium chloride based salt spread most widely.  A calcium chloride based deicer, for example is far less destructive in every category.  The mid- to long-term benefits would more than outweigh the modest increase in short-term costs.

    When the Romans destroyed Carthage about two millenia ago, they plowed its fields with salt to prevent its reemergence as an economic rival.  To this day, virtually nothing grows there.  And here are we, doing it to ourselves! 

    Does NOACA has any input on this issue?

    If this is the wrong forum, I apologize, as I am just getting started.

     

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    Posted Sep 23, 2011

  7. Angie Schmitt
    Angie Schmitt

    Hey guys,

     

    Little update. I forwarded all of our concerns to Howard Maier, NOACA's director. So far he has not responded. I  just asked that our concerns be entered into the public record and brought before the board and that NOACA issue a formal response. I'm not sure NOACA has a legal right to refuse to hear a complaint from members of the public. I'll let you know what I learn and if I do get a response, I'll post it here.

    In the meantime, if anyone knows of any legal resources that might be useful, I'm all ears.

     

    Thanks,

     

    Angie

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    Posted Oct 03, 2011

  8. Angie Schmitt
    Angie Schmitt

    Thanks Jonathan and NOACA. I am sorry for any misinformation and glad it was corrected.

    A lot of this is truly news to me and good news. Without some sort of formal public outreach, it is hard to know these things even if you are a concerned citizen that is very engaged with transportation issues in NE Ohio. As I mentioned, meetings are during working hours, the website is hard to navigate, NOACA doesn't participate in online forums, it is difficult to know what the agency is up to. I know you guys produce a book-thick Transportation Improvement Plan annually, but you can't honestly expect the general public to refer to that to attempt to understand your organization.

    The community really should be engaged in these topics because they're so important. If NOACA was more open, then maybe untrue rumors would be squeched much more quickly. Your response really helped clear things up for me. I think this is really great. Thanks again!

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    Posted Oct 07, 2011

  9. Kevin Cronin
    Kevin Cronin

    Thanks again for the thoughtful responses. I would like to add our own biking perspective.  During the early years of the nonprofit ClevelandBikes (2003-05), we approached NOAOCA about funding and even put in for discretionary money and CMAQ (Congestion Mitigation and Air Qaulity) money for our activities. We did not get any funding and were informally told that CMAQ money was generally used for traffic light synchronization.  Not to denigrate light synchronization for motorists and preventing idling, but bicycling is a useful and productive strategy as well and modest CMAQ support for cycling has been a productive and successful route in other cities. 

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    Posted Oct 11, 2011

  10. Alex Keleman
    Alex Keleman

    I've been reluctant to jump into this conversation in that it appeared more like a feud between a former employee and employer. Now that it has changed direction a bit, here's ome perspecitve from another MPO where  I routinely provide citizen input.

    At AMATS there are 3 groups, the Policy Committee, made up of voting members - Mayors, City Managers, or designates of each community and some organizations (transit, etc) in Summit, Portage and part of Wayne county. Unlike NOACA, votes are not weighted by community, though the feds are trying to force all MPOs to change that (it was in the last Transporation bill).

    Policy meets during the day, as does the Technical Advisory Committee, which is made up of engineers. They meet during the day, as I suspect NOACA does, because their evenings are taken up by Council meetings and committees in their own communities. Each city and city committee meets on a different night. It would be a nightmare to get a quorum during the evening.

    We have a third committee, the Citizens Involvement Committee which does meet at night. The CIC meets a week before the Policy Committee, and votes and comments on the same agenda items.  This way, Policy will have our input. (citizen input is required by federal law for MPOs).

    Our results are reported to Policy, especially when the issue was controversial. One of us from CIC tries to attend the Policy meeting and commnet if we feel our position requires extra explanation. What they do with it is another matter. They are not required to consider either the TAC or CIC recommendations, though I believe sometimes we can move the needle a bit.

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    Posted Oct 11, 2011

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